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The latest news about the Partition Street Project in the Village of Saugerties, New York.

Lot Line Change Requested at Planning Board Meeting

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A lot line adjustment was requested by Partition Street Project developers at the [December 9, 2009] Saugerties Village Planning Board meeting.  A tentative meeting for the [lot line change] was scheduled for next month. NOTE: Saugerties Village Law 210-21 (Planned Waterfront District) specifies minimum lot size as 4 acres. SEE: http://www.ecode360.com/ecode3-back/getSimple.jsp?guid=11104172

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New Visuals Presented by Partition Street Project Developers

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Partition Street Project presented new visuals of their proposed Cantine Paper Mill property banquet/restaurant and hotel development in Saugerties Village New York.

They include a landscape plan and 2 views (from Partition St looking down the hill entitled “Preliminary Northerly View” and from across the bridge as you would be entering the Village from the south called Preliminary Southerly view).

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Restricted “Viewing Area” Offered as Public Access

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Gated (restricted) public access at Partition Street Project

Partition Street Project representatives offered an approximately small viewing area of the Cantine Dam as public access. The engineer, Dennis Larios made exceptions to the public access area which would be gated and only accessible when a private function was not being held.

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Planning Board member Jeff Helmuth, who was officiating in the absence of chair George Lewandowski, asked if there would be any parking for the access area. The response was what there would be no public parking area dedicated for the access area.

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Hinchey Holds Key to Public Access

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Hinchey promotes public access at Cafe Tamayo - 2001

The development of the Partition Street Project on the former Cantine Mill Site overlooking the spectacular waterfall on the Esopus Creek has reached a crucial turning point. The joint owners, Tom Struzzieri, founder of Horseshows in the Sun, Joe Mullen, contractor, and Congressman Maurice Hinchey wish to build a combined hotel and restaurant offering their patrons an exclusive view of this regional attraction.

Congressman Hinchey is a key link in this process. Over the years he has displayed a strong dedication to the public interest in our rural resources. This past year he championed conservation of forests in Idaho and public access to the Hudson River. In the latter effort he succeeded with the leadership of Scenic Hudson in requiring private waterfront developments in Newburgh and Kingston to provide public access to the shore of the Hudson River. Congressman Hinchey has a unique position in this development group. He carries not only the well earned prestige of his office but a record of dedication to meeting public needs for open space. He alone has the vision which could place the Partition Street Project as an outstanding example of sound planning.
In 2001, Congressman Hinchey stood proudly beside a plan showing a park along the Esopus Creek with a new town hall and library fronting Partition Street. While these two uses have been replaced by the hotel/ restaurant complex, there is no reason why the public access portion along the bluff overlooking the extraordinary waterfall and rapids below should not be retained. In fact, such a centrally located scenic overlook will increase the attraction of the hotel/restaurant facility. It would be a win/win situation for all concerned.
Let us hope that Congressman Hinchey, as a prime mover in this enterprise, will make the right decision in behalf of his constituents here at home as well as in Idaho, Newburgh and Kingston.
Saugerties Citizens for Smart Development
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Saugerties’ “Natural Wonder” is in Hands of Congressman Hinchey

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Dear Congressman Hinchey

I have learned that there are plans afoot to develop the Nanny Goat Hill site in Saugerties and that you are among the named developers.

I think that there are things that you should know about Nanny Goat Hill and I would like to write you about them.

By way of introduction, I am a professor of geology at Hartwick College and a writer of geology columns for Kaatskill Life Magazine, and five regional newspapers, including the Woodstock Times and the Hudson Catskill newspaper chain. In short I communicate a great deal with our local community.

I understand that it may be that Nanny Goat Hill will  be blasted away in order to make room for a parking garage. I hope this will not happen.

Nanny goat hill is a remarkable ice age feature called  by the name of “ramp and pluck.” It was formed during the Ice Age when a sizable glacier advanced from the east. The glacier scoured its way up the east side of the Nanny Goat Hill and created the gentle slope that is seen there.

As the ice overrode the hill, it adhered to the bedrock there, yanked or plucked much of it loose, and created the steep cliff face seen on that side.

Please see the attached photo of Nanny Goat Hill that shows the ramp side on the right and the plucked side on the left.

This really is a remarkable ice age feature and I know of no others like it in our vicinity. I feel that it should be protected and appreciated.

Like so many others, I watched and enjoyed Ken Burns’ series on the national parks. We all learned much from it, but the single most important message was about learning to save, not destroy the natural wonders all around us.

At the very least I hope you will show this message to your architects and see what they can do.

Thank you for listening.

Robert Titus, PhD
Department of Geology
Hartwick College
Oneonta NY 13820

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Esopus Creek Conservancy Calls for a Positive Declaration of Partiton Street Project

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Spider Barbour and Susan Bolitzer of the Esopus creek Conservancy calls for Saugerties Village Planning board to call call for a Positive Declaration of teh Partition Street Project.

Spider Barbour Comments on Partition Street Project pgs. 1

Spider Barbour Comments on Partition Street Project pgs. 2,3

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Partition Street Project: Two Alternate Site Plans

Pursuit of smart growth approaches to community development offer the opportunity to make use of existing water and sewer infrastructure, prevent urban sprawl, and promote targeted investment that can strengthen our “Main Street” businesses and the community as a whole.

With that said, a number of us have developed options in sketch plan form that could strengthen the attractiveness and viability of the project while potentially reducing the estimated construction costs.

Both Alternative 1 and Alternative 2 substitute a single-tier parking area along Dock Street for the proposed two-tier design.  This would require substantially less rock excavation and allow for street tree planting, access to the hilltop, much reduced stormwater run-off, and reduced valet staff and trips. ( See the enclosed sketch comparing the proposed cuts and the alternative cuts through rock)

Second, the alignment of the principle buildings with the creek and Partition Street both work with the existing topography and underground foundations instead of straddling them at an awkward 45 degrees.  This change should produce significant cost savings.  Removal of the cantilever on the banquet hall alone is a cost saver.

It is important to note that this site is unique in being totally disturbed by previous construction, This is not a normal “natural” site amenable to conventional cutting and filling techniques. The natural grade is below the historic foundations and consists of bedrock. The earlier topography consisted of a more gentle grade to the wetland below, requiring fill along the top edge behind the front wall the Cantine Mill. At least this is the opinion of Alex Wade. It is assumed that all new construction will require excavation to original grade and new compacted fill, even for the roads and parking areas.

Both designs use the same square footage that is shown on the plan currently under review.  Our goal is to make the alterations attractive financially and functionally while incorporating three aspects that improve the project from the community’s perspective.  These are: 1) Open access to a walk along the bluff which will be a pedestrian link between the Village and restaurant.  2) Mitigate the costly and unattractive excavations of “Nanny Goat Hill”  3) Aesthetically and architecturally connect the project to the existing character of the Village.  These changes create a win-win.

Alternate 1: Notes on proposed changes:

*Optimize the View

Move the buildings up to the edge as close as practical.  As proposed, the 45 degree orientation of  the buildings moves them quite far back from the edge  which considerably reduces the visibility and drama of the falls. In this alternate plan both the catering hall/ballroom and the restaurant would have a corner window pointing to the falls.

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Alternate plan prosed by David Minch for the Partition Street Project

The hotel is moved closer to the views and is not blocked by the catering hall.  The offices are moved to the bluff and now have a view of the falls.  Looking at sections “A” “B” and “C” you will see the improved downward sight-lines of all the functions.

*One Tier of Parking at “Nanny Goat Hill”

There is approximately 1/3 the material to be removed in the single tiered scheme and by slightly raising the single tier it becomes possible to fill at the street for plantings as required by the planning board. (This is difficult in the proposed plan because of the solid rock shelf.)  It is not difficult to picture the aesthetic improvement of the view from the 9W bridge as one enters the Village.  The reduced run-off will facilitate the discharge elimination system.

*Economize  Building Costs

Alternate 1 suggests grouping all the functions into one building.  This reduces construction costs in several ways:  One elevator can accommodate all the vertical circulation;  One control area or check-in point can service the entire complex reducing other circulation area and staff;  reduced exterior surface area and foundation costs. Use more economical and simpler shapes and one consistent style of architecture which would be more reminiscent of the original Cantine Mill. (When you look at the tall narrow section of the plan which has the three clerestory roofs, picture the renovated Mill Building on lower East Bridge Street.) The choice of a consistent architectural style brings not only cohesion to the plan, but also is more economical to build.

*Site Improvements

Primary goals of the scheme are: use existing plan as much as possible;  allow views through the site by pulling the building together;  make views more accessible to guests; provide access along the bluff that in no way disturbs the privacy of guests (again note the sections “A”, “B” and “C”); provide exterior access to the restaurant with control gates (note the terrace – this could attract pedestrians who are walking the bluff to use the restaurant and restaurant patrons to use the bluff walk.  This is a definite win-win in that it brings people into the facility and enhances the experience of walking the bluff); and provide additional parking on the main site. Other benefits of these suggested changes include easy fire-truck access to the back of the buildings, and what I would consider a better orientation to the street instead of the staggered corner-like facade.

Alternate 2: Notes on proposed changes:

* Place buildings back from bluff edge to provide:

1. Improved views

2. Improved safety and fire access

3. An additional walkway to allow guests to promenade along the creek and enjoy landscaped surroundings and invite strolls either further along the shore or up into the village.

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Alternative Plan for Partition Street Project presented by Barry Benepe

* Relate buildings to the 28 foot grade change in an open park-like setting with the following results:

1. Parking is tucked into two levels entered from the north and south at grade with separate pedestrian entrances at the center.  Entry and exit from the upper level would be from the north at grade.  Entry and exit from the lower level would also be at grade from the south. No rock excavation should be required. The modest additional cost of construction of the upper level would be offset by reduced run-off, easier pedestrian flow from parking to facility, adequate parking and a more attractive, inviting landscaped setting for the entire complex.  The project would be entered and exited from Partition Street in a one way traffic pattern.  Fitting additional parking on the main site in an attractive manner is not only more convenient for users, but also saves money by reducing blasting expenses.

2. Inn at the top of the hill overlooking the restaurant and banquet hall and the Esopus Creek Valley beyond. A clock tower forms a focal point at the foot of Partition Street.

3. A viewing meadow alongside the inn looking down toward the waterfall and a small sculpture garden where the paths converge.

4. Restaurant and Banquet Hall flanking the bluff path with casual refreshments at the ground level and more exclusive dining on the terraces overlooking the creek below, the two buildings linked by a more formal canopied event court faced by a descending water retention garden, the entire complex centered on the landscaped brick-faced arch-windowed parking garage, which itself will have dramatic views towards the waterfall, an inviting entrance to your guests as they leave their cars.

5. Paths connecting to Ripley Street, Krause’s, Partition Street and Dock Street as well as the waterfront. A path will also connect to those parking in a landscaped single tier parking area with a permeable surface for overflow event parking stretching down Dock Street. Another path will lead to the top of Nanny Goat Hill where a small park will provide glorious views. Both this path, the “High Road”, and Dock Street, the “Low Road”, will provide walking access to the lighthouse, the latter by a trail constructed by the Village (using grant funds) around the north of the Treatment Plant terminating in another dramatic outlook along Lighthouse Drive. Where roads cross paths, the latter will remain level for safety while autos mount carefully over them.

Saugerties Citizens for Smart Development

Dave Minch  246 2711

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